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July 16, 2009

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Schmoopie

Yeah, I'll play Lexulous with you. But only if you find a substitute for "retarded" as an insult in your vocabulary. This eloquent post by Michael Bérubé (a prof who has a teenage son with Down syndrome) offers a great many alternatives that avoid stigmatizing the cognitively impaired.

Vandelay

Yeah but the difference is that I would never refer to anybody with Down Syndrome as "retarded." I don't fault people for their afflictions...only for their ignorance.

Send me your FB profile to the blog's e-mail address. Because you were in a movie about crossword puzzles I get 10-1 odds.

Whatley

I have never played scrabble, I probably won't, but go ahead and Facebook request me if you like. Watch me spin some game on the 21 year old college ladies.

Yeah...I'm that creepy guy in the corner of the Tits and Ass club watching them dance to that same goddamn Lady GaGa tune over and over and over...

Mr. Kruger

So apparently those Rocket Scientists at NASA erased the Apollo 11 mission

Great, they get a $20 billion budget and still can't afford to hire a freakin' archivist. They should just send all that stuff to the National Archives and let them handle it. Then we only have to worry about the CIA stealing it.

if you're keeping score at home "Hollywood" is generally considered to employ the biggest anti-Rocket Scientists in the world. Do you get it now?

does not compute.

Jack Klompus

"As if any other company employed Rocket Scientists, right?"

You never heard of Raytheon? Well, at least you knew who Arturo Gatti was.

Vandelay

does not compute.

Hollywood -> Actors -> Idiots?

I don't know. It was late.

You never heard of Raytheon?

You never heard of sarcasm?

Vandelay

Come to think of it, it's also ironic because a lot of tinfoil hat wearing mofos think Apollo 11 was a Hollywood product to begin with.

Newman

Vandelay, I will Scrabble you any day of the freaking week.

Jack Klompus

"You never heard of sarcasm?"

Nope. One has to be a real asshole to use sarcasm.

Vandelay

Sweet! You or Gunpowder?

Assman

This eloquent post by Michael Bérubé (a prof who has a teenage son with Down syndrome) offers a great many alternatives that avoid stigmatizing the cognitively impaired.

I don't let guys with multiple accents in their names tell me what I can and can't say. That's just retarded.

Either way, his argument is spurious. He's saying I can insult someone's judgement, but not their capacity. But... when I call a guy a retard, I'm saying "you have no intellectual capacity" not "you made a poor decision." Calling him a "knave" is an entirely different editorial direction. It's my insult; I'll use it as I see fit.

if a man films a PSA to inform people that suicide is a bad thing and to seek help because you and everyone around you will be affected and then has some roadbeef mistress that ends up going all Benoit on him...THAT IS NOT IRONIC!!!

Irony would be if McNair killed himself because he didn't like the way he was treated during the PSA's filming. Keep pushing this point, man.

Jack Klompus

"Irony would be if McNair killed himself because he didn't like the way he was treated during the PSA's filming. Keep pushing this point, man.""

Irony would also be if Michael Bérubé's teenaged son called his dad's post "retarded."

Vandelay

Ha! Yes those would both easily qualify.

Yeah, banning that word from this site would pretty much bring us down to like 2 posts per month.

Vandelay

We wouldn't even get Assman's one per quarter.

Also, it would single-handedly destroy Festivus.

Mr. Kruger

How did the spurious use of the word "retard" become demonized when idiot, moron, imbecile, ignoramus, simpleton, etc etc are still held in high standing? I mean is there really THAT much difference between a retard and a moron. I'm assuming they both can tie their shoes of course. Live on the rhetorical flourishes of ReTaRd-Nation.

Kenny Bania

I don't let guys with multiple accents in their names tell me what I can and can't say. That's just retarded.

Secondeded.

Jeff

Vandelay, I will Scrabble you any day of the freaking week.

I am pretty sure scrabble is a euphemism for something here.

bethany schumann mcghee

Vandelay,
I will scrabble w/you on FB. I've never scrabbled yet in the virtual world, but play a mean game in real life, and would love to know who the heck you are. (Clearly not a KC Royals pitcher, as I had dreamed!)

*for the record* not a vandelay stalker, although this post does sound kinda creepy

Schmoopie

Kruger, you didn't read the link, did you? Berube doesn't think you should use those other terms as insults, either. Fifty years ago, some of the words you listed were used by physicians to refer to folks with Down syndrome.

And really, guys? You don't think you're smart enough to come up with ways to criticize things without calling them "retarded"? I think you're smart enough. I mean, douchebag, asshat, dickwad, twit, mouth-breather, troglodyte, ignorant hick—we have a rich vocabulary with room for mocking that doesn't convey the message that "people with lower IQs are worthy of disdain." People who are not functionally retarded but act like they haven't got a brain in their head can (and should!) be mocked, sure, but it's lazy to go the "retarded" route.

I heard that Scrabbling a guy is like teabagging, only with more handsy action.

Vandelay

I honestly am not sure I'm smart enough to do that. I can not for the life of me come up with a better word. As sad as it may sound, it's quite possible my second favorite word.

Lets go...send me your FB profile. I promise not to use that word in the game. How about that?

Mr. Kruger

Kruger, you didn't read the link, did you?

OK, the performance v. capacity argument is intriguing. I always preferred miscreant to retard anyway but I don't know if I'm fully swayed. Retard is a classic.

Assman

You don't think you're smart enough to come up with ways to criticize things without calling them "retarded"?

Nah, it's not a matter of smart v. stupid. It's more like red meat.

By eating red meat, you perpetuate the negative treatment of animals in the mass meat production industry, lead to global warming via bovine flatulence and take hours off the end of your life with every bite. In a sense, you should avoid eating red meat and eat iron supplements like dark greens and vitamins instead. That would be the smart, proper thing to do.

On the other side of the coin, I like steak, I like burgers and quite honestly, I could give a shit if that hurts someone's feelings. I've never claimed to be perfect or hyper-sensitive to the needs of the entire planet. I just believe in the greater good and having a good enough time that life ends up worth living.

So, I could stop using retard and instead insult people using words that they're honestly too retarded to comprehend, or I can keep using retard because I like the cadence of it and don't suffer being berated by the intelligencia well. As Kruger says "retard is a classic." I'll leave progressive perfection to someone that aspires for it.

Jack Klompus

"troglodyte"

Okay unless it's a geek fight, nobody's gonna throw around troglodyte. I can't even imagine how that flies. "Dude, you're such a troglodyte. That's so troglodytic. You fuckin' trog."

Andrea

...we have a rich vocabulary with room for mocking that doesn't convey the message that "people with lower IQs are worthy of disdain."

But you find nothing wrong with mocking people who can't properly breathe through their noses (mouth-breather) due to some medical malady or based on what region they are from (..hick)?

Sure, my argument is silly and preposterous and taking these terms literally. But then again, so are you with your argument against using retarded as an insult or way to mock someone. Which, if you really wanted to feel superior you should advocate against the mocking of others than trying to make everyone sound pretentious as they do so.

Schmoopie

Assman, hon, it's "intelligentsia." C'mon, you know that!

Klompus, "You fuckin' trog" has got legs. Work it! We can make this a standard insult. (Plus: I'm a geek. Geek fights are the only kind I know. "Listen, you asswipe, you probably couldn't even finish a Monday crossword" is a real insult in my circles.

Kruger, check the festivus1223 e-mail account and friend me already so I can kick your weeny ass (and I mean that in the nicest way) at Lexulous.

Vandelay

Okay. Just so you know it was the better looking brother that challenged you to...wait...what the fuck is Lexulous?

Buy Tamiflu

I wonder why people needed this falsification?

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