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July 22, 2009

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Newman

Well, you CAN get thrown out of the league...but do you think it deserved more than a game suspension? That's probably on the lighter end of the racial slur scale.

Also, why don't you get out of your office and start cleaning the bathrooms?

Cold Conservative

Was the kid a spectator or player? If he was a player, as the commish call him in and ask him, "Please explain exactly what you meant, so you get the full benefit of the doubt." Then, when he's done, I throw him out of the league. If he was a spectator, he's banned from attendance.

Jackie

My bad on wording. It's not "can," it's "will."

I will edit.

I think he should be thrown out. You don't have slurs, because you don't want fights and riots and shit breaking out.

You're saying shit like that, you're asking for the same trouble.

Mamma Chiles prohibits me from cleaning bathrooms. It's true.

Jackie

"Was the kid a spectator or player?"

He was playing and my bro had just made him look stupid.

Vandelay

It's a technicality. It's not a slur per se but it's about as racist as it gets.

bethany schumann mcghee

Short of throwing out the n word (or something similar), I don't know how that statement could be more clearly a racial slur. Seems like this would be a clear policy violation and should result in a permanent time out.

Kenny Bania

Propose that the team sing "We Are The World" if they want to keep him in the league.

Jack Klompus

He should be forced to invite 65 black day campers to his pool club.

Schmoopie

Throw the bum out. Send his ass to that racist private club in Philly. He'll be right at home living in the 1950s.

Jack Klompus

And then go fix Skip Gates' front door.

puddy

i'm just curious what sport he should be playing.

Mr. Kruger

"Why don't you get off the ice and go play your own fucking sport!"

Clearly, he should be kicked in the balls and sent home for good.

On another note, if you're going to have a rule like that it should apply to everyone black, white, and in between. For positive comments as well as negative. To avoid all confusion.

Newman

Positive comments? Like "you play hockey really well for an African!!!"?

Mr. Kruger

Positive comments? Like "you play hockey really well for an African!!!"?

no, I was thinking something totally different. Isn't that the opening line to the Hallmark channel's "Donald Brashear Story".

Assman

What if there are just white people on the ice and a few of them start tossing the n-word around in bravado because they think they're Eminem? Or what if someone uses an incidentally-ignorant racial slur that barely registers anymore like "oriental?" There's got to be some room for interpretation around the rule. What if a guy wants to call to a Mexican teammate whose name he doesn't know, but the guy's back is soaking wet?

Mr. Kruger

What if there are just white people on the ice and a few of them start tossing the n-word around in bravado because they think they're Eminem?

That's what I was thinking. Or if the black guys on the ice start calling each other that every time one of them scores a goal, which could be pretty frequent.

TMan

I got it for the punishment: give the guy the choice of either (a) being banned from the league; or (b) packing the arena with every female he has been, is or wants to be with and making him play one-on-one against Baby Bro Childs for an entire period.

Mr. Kruger

Was anyone else surprised Obama weighed in on the Gates case like he did at that press conference last night? Weird.

Assman

Was anyone else surprised Obama weighed in on the Gates case like he did at that press conference last night? Weird.

He's a black scholar who went to Harvard. That shit hit home for him. Man isn't a robot.

Jack Klompus

"Was anyone else surprised Obama weighed in on the Gates case like he did at that press conference last night?"

I'd be more surprised that someone actually asked him the question. But then again, it is the media -- the same media that is still analyzing his choice of Mommy jeans when he girled out the first pitch at the All-Star Game.

"He's a black scholar who went to Harvard. That shit hit home for him."

What does being a black Harvard scholar have to do with identifying with a black man being unjustly arrested?

By the way, Skip Gates's money quote from the ordeal is now a T-Shirt. Awesome.

jackie

He's a black scholar who went to Harvard. That shit hit home for him. Man isn't a robot.

My e-mail response to a buddy today who forwarded the Obama quote:

"Obama had the same sh*t happen to him and his people in Cambridge. He knows the drill."

Mr. Kruger

He's a black scholar who went to Harvard. That shit hit home for him. Man isn't a robot.

Yea I totally agree with the premise of his stance but it just seemed he was throwing himself to the wolves because the enemy loves red herrings like this and he just spent and 1.5 hours arguing for health care reform. Which the mental media is portraying as his make or break sudden death penalty shot or some such crap. Like there's nothing else he has to do.

Vandelay

Obama said he's biased because he's friends with Gates and he can't possibly know all the facts. He should have stopped right there.

Dick move.

Mr. Kruger

Obama said he's biased because he's friends with Gates and he can't possibly know all the facts. He should have stopped right there.

Well, even though I thought it was politically reckless, even stupid, I really liked the way he put the screws to the cops. Everyone knows profiling is normal operating procedure no matter what town you live in and a lot of cops are just licensed thugs- fuck 'em. Plus it's the first time Obama actually spoke his mind on this race thing- at least that's what the media wants you to believe.

Jack Klompus

"he just spent and 1.5 hours arguing for health care reform. Which the mental media is portraying as his make or break sudden death penalty shot or some such crap."

And yet the headline that comes out of that press conference is all about his comments about Gates and the Cambridge po-po. Think it's a coincidence that was the last question of the night?

Mr. Kruger

Think it's a coincidence that was the last question of the night?

No, it didn't seem random at all but what are you suggesting?

Assman

What does being a black Harvard scholar have to do with identifying with a black man being unjustly arrested?

Identifying with a black Harvard scholar that was being unjustly arrested in a place where he used to live?

Short version - a president probably shouldn't weigh in on these matters so hastily.

Long version - but he's right. There's no need to handcuff and arrest a 50-something year old man inside his own house who has demonstrated that he's not guilty of the crime he's being accused of. Being a cop is hard because it requires that you be the bigger person from time to time. Race really ought to be irrelevant in this discussion because no matter what color everyone was, the cops acted stupidly.

Think it's a coincidence that was the last question of the night?

This health care thing is going to pass because we're too busy living in TMZ America to really have a substantive discussion about what it entails.

Vandelay

Everyone knows profiling is normal operating procedure no matter what town you live in and a lot of cops are just licensed thugs- fuck 'em.

Which by the way does not mean that Crowley is one of them. If he admits to being biased and not having all the facts, he should shut the fuck up.

Jack Klompus

@Assman
"Identifying with a black Harvard scholar that was being unjustly arrested in a place where he used to live?"

Is there some type of feeling only black scholars get when they are the victim of racial profiling? Black CEOs, construction workers, salesmen etc. from Cambridge wouldn't identify as well as Obby?

"This health care thing is going to pass because we're too busy living in TMZ America to really have a substantive discussion about what it entails."

If this thing passes, prepare for a shitstorm that will make the public outcry against FEMA in the wake of Katrina look like child's play. And expect FOX News to reach unprecedented levels of shrill annoyance.

@Kruger
"No, it didn't seem random at all but what are you suggesting?"

What I am suggesting is that question was placed in attempt to help Obama. His administration knows exactly how to use the media to their advantage. Better than clinton and Reagan (or maybe just easier pawns). They know full well that neither side of the partisan media really wants to focus on the full scope of the proposed healthcare overhaul. So it's talking point here, talking point there, catchphrase here, cliche there, and then new topic on the way out the door. Save for Biden, they're a savvy bunch.

Mr. Kruger

@Klompus

You're saying they created a controversy to draw attention away from the most important legislation of his term after spending an entire press conference trying to convince the nation of its merits. Does not compute.

By that logic why stop there. You can say they called in that tip to the cops and jammed Gates door up while he was in China so that by the time this press conf came around everything would be in place for that very last question. Seems the Birthers have competition.

Anyway, I was not greatly impressed with his health care arguments. They seemed dumbed down for general public consumption which he usually doesn't do for the most part. Either way, the bill isn't going anywhere till after September.

If he admits to being biased and not having all the facts, he should shut the fuck up.

He was addressing the larger issue. (long exhale)

Jackie

"If he admits to being biased and not having all the facts, he should shut the fuck up."

Practice what you preach, my friend.

(T.E.)

Jack Klompus

"You're saying they created a controversy to draw attention away from the most important legislation of his term "

I'm not saying they created the controversy to draw attention. But I do believe the subject and placement of that question was designed to shift some of the focus. The White House knows what questions will be asked and they pre-determine which ones get asked and in which order. Whether or not Obama chose his words to intentionally piss off Cops and Vandelays or race-bait TMan is not known. I doubt it. However, I'm quite certain he knew what his words would be. I'm not criticzing him or his handlers for doing it, I'm simply pointing out that it wasn't the media acting alone, trying to submarine his Obamacare campaign as you seemed to sugest earlier.

"By that logic why stop there"

Because anything past that is no longer logical. It's tinfoil hat, grapenut eatin' fuckkery.

"after spending an entire press conference trying to convince the nation of its merits."

Please. He danced, dodged, and filibustered his way through the few questions that were asked. It's pretty clear that the only people who know what's in this heap of shit bill are the people that wrote it and the lobbyists (who essentially are the people who wrote it). If he's going to be on TV, at townhall meetings, and press conferences every day trying to push this thing, he needs to be able to smack down with specifics which provisions opponents are using against him with the public. He's not doing that. He's just giving us the same slogans and rhetoric. If he's that confident in this bill, he should have no problem addressing the controversy.

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