What Could It Be, It's A Mirage......

After watching a good deal of Reverend Wright's talk at the National Press Club yesterday afternoon I've concluded this guy is to Obama as Bill is to Hillary except ten times worse. My thoughts were mirrored in Bob Herbert's NY Times piece today and it's making me wonder if what I thought was Obama's sure ticket into the WH is suddenly being washed away by another short-sighted blowhard thinking the world revolves only around his tiny mind. 

Watching him parody the accents of Presidents and other politicians (and not even coming close) was just freaking weird and something you'd expect from someone who was not very sophisticated. I understand the positions he takes on race relations and this post has nothing to do that subject but only the fact that this guy is putting a huge dent in the campaign of the best candidate for President there is simply to feed his own ego. This is another great example of why religion and politics don't mix well.  It's time  to  cut the  cord on this clown. 

Comments

[SL22]

"If Obama were ASIAN, and Wright was a WHITE guy, would Obama still be good at math?

No.

- Thank you, Phil.

[Dr. Strangejazz]

@Klompus

"You don't think that will be drudged up again before November?"

It's old news. So no I don't think it will be dragged up. Now McCain's wife's drug use will be something that may come up.

You can twist Obama attending the MMM but at the same time if that does get twisted around a lot of people will come forward to say that they to attended the march. The point is moot.

[Likes to be informed.]

It's old news. So no I don't think it will be dragged up.

Once the general election starts nothing is old news. Look at the brujaja on Bush's service. The talk radio circuit have been covering Wright for over a year now. It is not whether it is old news or not, it is whether we are ready to be scandalized by it. This is a man who wants to be president, and these things will come up.

As for Bill Clinton pardoning the "weather Underground" (i thought most of them could not be tried due to prosecutor misconduct, not that they were not guilty), that will not stop republicans bringing up that William Ayers is a confessed terroist who still feels he should have bombed more places, and is freindly with Obama. They will use slick willy pardoning them as another means of attack at the same time.
Its going to get ugly.

[Assman]

If he goes off the deep, deeper end and starts pulling all kinds crazy publicity stunts the public is going to be bombarded with it through the media.

I sorta think that'd be a good thing. It's easier to identify him as a "crazy uncle" if he really starts getting crazy. I'm all for Rev. Wright getting stupid and flapping his gums. For a politician as charismatic as Obama, that's an easy thing to deflect. Much easier than something legit.

It's hard to believe Wright just radically changed during the past 20 years as Obama has suggested.

Is it hard to believe that this guy heard his name being spoken on TV a lot and turned into an even bigger asshole once the fame got to his head? I'm sure even Al Sharpton was a somewhat reasonable guy before TV cameras started following him around everywhere and giving him a podium. I personally have a lot of friends that, if I ever got famous, would immediately turn into jackasses for their own 15 minutes.

They're going to ask, "why didn't he denounce him then?" While I think the answer to that is simple -- the MMM was about something bigger than Farrakhan's anti-semitic past -- it will still be talked about, scrutinized, twisted, etc.

Yeah, that's an easy one too. It was an event getting people registered to vote. Asshole leadership or not, the actual event was a good thing. Why wouldn't he, as a professional community organizer, feel the need to get his community organized and registered to vote? That'd last about 3 days in the media, tops.

that will not stop republicans bringing up that William Ayers is a confessed terroist who still feels he should have bombed more places, and is freindly with Obama.

Go right ahead. If Ayers, who was doing this shit when Obama was, like, 8 or 9, is the best they can do, then they're going nowhere. Especially not with McCain as their horse. Aside from his wife being in AA and a former drug addict, he's got more holes in his resume than Roger Clemens.

[Dr. Strangejazz]

@Likes to be informed

"Look at the brujaja on Bush's service."

Heh. Yeah that really hurt him . That "scandal" did more to hurt Kerry and CBS than it did Bush.

I have no doubt it will get far worse. But that's what sells papers. If the people stood up and said we just want to hear about the issues. This would not be such a big deal.

The Keating 5 thing won't get as much mileage as the Wright story.

[phil]

@ SL22

You're welcome. That did lighten things up in the middle of a tense barrage.

Now, back to the joust...

[soupnazi]

lets just all call this idiot(Wright) a racist, which he is--he preaches that some other race(s) is resposible for all the woes of his own, just like the KKK-and dont give me this crap that some of his rantings include some facts, all racist leaders try to include some "truths" in their sermons-

[Dr. Strangejazz]

@soupnazi

If Wright is a racist then so is Pat Roberson. Deal?

[phil]

Interesting personal theory someone just presented to me that is pertinent. Obama needed a more dramatic reason to publically denounce Wright. Wright was approached on this, with an emphasis on the damage he may have caused, and Wright agreed to throw himself on the grenade. He then addressed the National Press Club, presenting himself as a real crackpot, opening the door for Obama to dust him off once and for all.

I don't know if I buy that, but it is interesting.

[SL22]

I've never heard anything in particular that would label Pat Robertson a racist, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was out there. Or did you just make that up out of the blue?

[Jack Klompus]

@Assman

"Is it hard to believe that this guy heard his name being spoken on TV a lot and turned into an even bigger asshole once the fame got to his head?"

Of course not. But that wasn't the point. The fact that Obama claimed he was unaware that Wright felt this way and was not the same guy he met 20 years ago -- people are questioning the authenticity of that statement.

"I'm sure even Al Sharpton was a somewhat reasonable guy before TV cameras started"

Wow. I'd take that bet with you. And I'd give you odds.

@phil
"Wright was approached on this, with an emphasis on the damage he may have caused, and Wright agreed to throw himself on the grenade."

I've heard that, too. I've also heard the theory that the Clinton camp was behind the Nat'l Press Club invitation. I would tend to believe the latter of those two theories if one were to be possible.

@Jazz
"The Keating 5 thing won't get as much mileage as the Wright story."

I agree, given that Obama has Rezko and Hillary has Whitewater. It's almost a push in that respect.

[daveNYC]

John McCain got a mere slap on the wrist for being part of the Keating 5. You don't think that will be drudged up again before November?

Nope. The media loves the taste of McCain cock. I can't think of a realistic meme that could overpower the current 'straight talking maverick tortured war hero' thing he has going for him.

[Likes to be informed.]

If the people stood up and said we just want to hear about the issues. This would not be such a big deal.

I do believe the beliefs, and the past of a man trying to be president is a real issue. Plus...Since Obama has nothing in his record othor than being elected senator, this is all we have to go by.

[soupnazi]

DR Strange--sadly(?) my memory of PR's quotes is slipping away with each toke, and I know he is another southern good ol' boy, but anything specific?

[Dr. Strangejazz]

@SL22 and soupnazi

Wright is not a racist, he's anti-establishment. Now Pat Buchanan. That's a real racist for ya.

I'm gonna take a big leap and guess that SL22 and soupnazi are white.

IMO white people have a different idea of racism than black people. So by your standards you think Wright is racist. By mine he isn't.

See once black people and white people can agree on what and who is racist maybe we can get past this issue.

@Jackie.

Do you think Wright is a racist?

[jackie]

I think Wright is a jackass.

I think Pat Robertson is a jackass.

I think anyone who tries to convey that they somehow speak for an entire race, or that an entire race holds certain views, is also a jackass.

[phil]

"See once black people and white people can agree on what and who is racist maybe we can get past this issue."

Doc hits the fuckin' nail.

[SL22]

I just can't really take a guy seriously when he thinks that the AIDS virus was "invented".

As far as the whole effect from the media or whatever? Just don't watch TV. I don't, and I barely even knew who this guy was.

[SL22]

And yes, Dr. Strangejazz, I am white. In fact, I am on record as referring to this fine blog as the "Airing of Race Cards".

[phil]

Really? I'm kinda new around here, but that has not been my perception.

[Dr. Strangejazz]

@SL22

I really hate that term "race card" in fact I hate it as much as you the word "sjit".

[Assman]

@ Klompus

Of course not. But that wasn't the point. The fact that Obama claimed he was unaware that Wright felt this way and was not the same guy he met 20 years ago -- people are questioning the authenticity of that statement.

You're trying to explain something that I'm not getting. If the guy goes on TV and turns into a jackass because the media is allowing him to, then doesn't it hold water that, before the media shitstorm, he could have been a more reasonable guy? If someone says he's not the same guy he was 20 years ago, doesn't it make sense, given that the size of the audience changes people?

What exactly is the point, if not that?

[Jack Klompus]

"If the guy goes on TV and turns into a jackass because the media is allowing him to"

That's just it. What is it that makes him a jackass or unreasonable? Is it his views (i.e. AIDs) or is the fact that he continues to relish the spotlight knowing that it could damage Obama's chances?

"If someone says he's not the same guy he was 20 years ago, doesn't it make sense, given that the size of the audience changes people?"

Again, is the issue more about Wright's views or the Reverend's willingness to amplify them given the reaction they have elicited? I really don't think Wright's views have changed dramatically in the past few weeks/months. Do you?

[SL22]

At least one is composed of actual words, Strangejazz. And you don't need to attack the term "race card", that's for J-Chiles.

[soupnazi]

give me a break, strangejazz--quit covering up for the racist that is wright, he blames the WHITE man for creating aids to kill the BLACK man--what dont you get??? what could possibly be out of context here?? i have heard the entire speach, and its RACIST!! Yes America, there are racists of all colors, and they are all ignorant!

[Dr. Strangejazz]

@soupnazi:

I'm not covering up for anyone. As I said before black people and white people need to agree one what and who is racist. You think Wright is a racist. That's your opinion.

Also white people's concept of racism is different from black people's concept.

IMO Wright is not a racist. Pat Buchanan is that's my opinion.

And what Rev. Wright said in D.C. is that America is capable of anything (see Tuskegee).

[Ocho Ocho]

We have seen this before. A young man elevated by a group and then betrayed by that group when he became a threat. His name was Christ. Wright and Jesse have never liked Obama because he represents the end of each's career ot lack theref.

The black church has shielded and served the community. However, like most religions, is also shears the flock. These guys live in luxury, are often philanderers, and work, at most a three day week. Shit, I would be pissed too if someone threatened my way of life.

[Jack Klompus]

"And what Rev. Wright said in D.C. is that America is capable of anything (see Tuskegee)."

Laughable. You know it was more than that.

[Dr. Strangejazz]

@Ocho Ocho

I agree that represents a threat to the likes of Jesse and Sharpton. WE AGREE THERE.

But a person cannot be sucessful in a national presidential campaign if he does not show he is a man of faith.

I would LOVE to see an atheist run for president. IMO A wheelchairbound, hermaphrodite Christian has a better shot at being president than an atheist in this country.

[Dr. Strangejazz]

@Klompus

"Laughable. You know it was more than that."

That's not the point. The point is that in the minds of a many Black Americans, America is capable of doing horrible things to black people, Tuskegee is just one example that gets thrown out there.

[soupnazi]

so, strange--how is a man that blames another race for all of his woes not a racist??

[Assman]

how is a man that blames another race for all of his woes not a racist??

Overwhelmingly, everything the Rev said supports his idea that the gov't is at fault for all the woes because the gov't favors whites to blacks.

I think what Jazz is getting at is that people tend to interpret statements differently depending on who they are. Wright never blames the white man directly, but says the white man has it easier because the gov't loves him. That's all.

Nope. The media loves the taste of McCain cock. I can't think of a realistic meme that could overpower the current 'straight talking maverick tortured war hero' thing he has going for him. Qoute from Jack Klompus

"If the guy goes on TV and turns into a jackass because the media is allowing him to"
Qoute from Assman

Its not that Wright is just now making himself a jackass. These qoutes from him that are being "taken out of context" ("Not God bless america, GOD DAMN AMERICA." after 911 "Amercias Chickens are coming home to roost" and othors) were from 15 years, 10 years ago etc..etc.. All the while Mr. Obama had the man baptise his childeren, marry him and his wife. But...all of a sudden he does not like the message? All of a sudden he has to back away from the man?

As for the media liking maccains cock... Lets say McCain was part of a church that beleived in :

Commitment to the WHITE Community

Commitment to the WHITE Family

Adherence to the WHITE Work Ethic

Pledge Allegiance to All WHITE Leadership Who Espouse and Embrace the WHITE Value System.

Personal Commitment to Embracement of the WHITE Value System.

They would have tore him apart before he could finish saying " I want to be president." But not the great half white hope obama. The media has been treating him with kid gloves. Now...that he is finally getting the scruitiny that is deserved of a man who would be president...now it is unfair?

[Jack Klompus]

"Nope. The media loves the taste of McCain cock. I can't think of a realistic meme that could overpower the current 'straight talking maverick tortured war hero' thing he has going for him. Qoute from Jack Klompus"

Not my quote, mystery nutjob. Go back and read again.