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July 18, 2007

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Art Vandelay

The article is a little ambiguous, but I don't think the plane actually got airborne before they turned around.

Orange

Priceless video!

Assman

An unruly 19 month old? Whoever heard of such a thing? Sounds like a first in aviation history.

Jack Klompus

"An unruly 19 month old? Whoever heard of such a thing? Sounds like a first in aviation history."

And a batshit woman from Gwinnett County, Georgia in the national spotlight. How unique.


Orange

The best part of that video is when she discusses the return flight—in which the tot had a total apocalyptic meltdown! She says a sympathetic flight attendant offered to give the kid his juice and crackers ASAP, he ate, and he fell asleep within 15 minutes. This tells us two things: (1) This kid is a handful. (2) Maybe it would be helpful for his mom to make a point of feeding him before they board a plane, eh? (3) If she doesn't manage to do that, she could at least ask a flight attendant for a kid snack on the way to her seat.

Babu

um, aren't you supposed to give kids some sedatives or something before they fly...cold medicine or something?

jackie

"um, aren't you supposed to give kids some sedatives or something before they fly...cold medicine or something?"

Don't know one way or the other, but it'd be a damn good idea if you plan on bringing 'em on national television in this context, no?

daveNYC

I think I missed the chapter in Dr. Spock's book where he suggests drugging your child whenever they become inconvenient.

Jack Klompus

"I think I missed the chapter in Dr. Spock's book where he suggests drugging your child whenever they become inconvenient."

Apparently the Benoits caught that chapter.

howard in nyc

what are the odds she sues abc, gma and diane sawyer?

bluehorseshoe

Awesome, children under 12 need to be banned from air travel. Period. Or at least they really need to have non-children flights. Anyone who has had to endure sitting near some ADD stricken basket case of a toddler on a long haul flight would agree. I would pay a premium for not having to sit next to some semi-retard and her spawn for hours....

TMan

This little fucker will be in juvie before he finishes puberty. Mom clearly does not know how to deal with him, so he acts out. Shocker.

Jack Klompus

"Awesome, children under 12 need to be banned from air travel. Period."

Asian people, too. They're always pushing through lines and they routinely break the carry-on size limit. Then you gotta wait extra time to take off while the flight attendants figure out what to do with the fuckin' hope chest they brought onboard.

"Or at least they really need to have non-children flights."

They do. It's called flying later at night. Sure there a few that slip through the cracks but most will be sleeping at that point.

"This little fucker will be in juvie before he finishes puberty. Mom clearly does not know how to deal with him, so he acts out. Shocker."

Unless you have a deaf-mute I doubt you have any kids. And I also doubt you were some docile little mouse at that age. Even though they call them the terrible 2's, they actally start at about 18 months (and last for 18 more). Then tack on the fact that it's a boy and it means you got double the shenanigans. I'm not saying Penland is mom of the year, but toddlers are what they are. That said, if she's not prepared to keep him occupied during the travel process, then they shouldn't be flying (unless it's an emergency). It's not fair to anyone.

Assman

Even though they call them the terrible 2's, they actally start at about 18 months (and last for 18 more). Then tack on the fact that it's a boy and it means you got double the shenanigans. I'm not saying Penland is mom of the year, but toddlers are what they are.

I'd have given the kid Benadryl exactly for that reason. What 19 month old kid isn't going to act like that on a plane if he's antsy? What kid is going to get on a TV set and understand that he has to sit still if he's feeling feisty? When it comes to the greater good, I'm a doper.

Art Vandelay

What 19 month old kid isn't going to act like that on a plane if he's antsy? What kid is going to get on a TV set and understand that he has to sit still if he's feeling feisty?

Mine, for one.

I guess I can't speak for other people's kids but you're mass generalizing here, aren't you?

Assman

I guess I can't speak for other people's kids but you're mass generalizing here, aren't you?

A bit. Especially since my kid wouldn't do the exact same. Personality and temperment go a long way.

But I'm generalizing the idea that kids of that age act like that a lot. It's not like that kid is a particular monster or anything. Especially if the kid gets antsy.

Jack Klompus

"Mine, for one."

Might be the only one.

"I guess I can't speak for other people's kids but you're mass generalizing here, aren't you?"

Of course he is. Because the overwhelming majority of kids that age are antsy. It's just a fact. If for some reason you have a well-behaved, focused 19-month old -- your one of the lucky few. But you shouldn't expect that from everyone else's rugrats.

I just took my 19-month old on a 2.5 hour flight two weeks ago. And while she wasn't unruly, I had to have an arsenal of food and activities to bombard with her at all times. It was a lot of work and wasn't enjoyable by any stretch. You have to keep them busy or they'll go bonkers -- as will everyone else. Or as Assman suggested, a little Benadryl to slow things down. I swore I never would do such a thing -- until her first flight. It's really not as bad as it sounds.

Art Vandelay

Oh I wasn't suggesting that I don't bring things on planes to keep my kid busy...I most certainly do. A big ass knapsack full of shit as a matter of fact. If I told her to just sit there and stare at the seat in front of you for 3 hours, we might have problems. That's just common sense though.

Jack Klompus

"That's just common sense though."

Um, are you new here?

Babu

see, I was right about drugging kids!

Assman

see, I was right about drugging kids!

I guess on principle it feels like its something you really shouldn't be doing, but, before taking my kid on her first flight:

a.) my pediatrician was like, "Come on - it's okay. No bad effects."

b.) my parents were like, "Seriously - we drugged you at least 4 times a year. You crazy assed baby."

c.) my daughter was like, "You can choose to not drug me, but I reserve the right to be a real bitch if I get bored. And, by the way, I plan on getting really bored, really quickly."

bluehorseshoe

IMHO, young Kids dont need to be on the plane anyway. Are they travelling to an important meeting? Travelling to savour the delights of a Tuscan villa or Island Holiday? Jeez the little bastards are too busy screaming, throwing up or shitting themselves to know WTF is going on. Parents should do everyone a favour, including themselves, and leave em at home.

If air stewards were empowered under the Homeland Security Act 2002 to unilaterally spike the all kids with Xanax or something before they got on the plane, then that would be a fair compromise.

Assman

IMHO, young Kids dont need to be on the plane anyway. Are they travelling to an important meeting? Travelling to savour the delights of a Tuscan villa or Island Holiday?

I dunno. Maybe to visit relatives? Maybe they're moving from the east coast to te west coast and don't have the stamina to sit in a car for 4 days?

Parents should do everyone a favour, including themselves, and leave em at home.

And wait for hijinks to ensue, like in the Home Alone movies? Or maybe just wait for Family Services to arrest you when you get back?

TMan

Klompus, no, I don't have kids, but I do have two godchildren for whom I provide regular care, as well as several neices/nephews. And, the ones whose parents have their shit together don't act the fool at every opportunity.

As for this moron and her offspring: No, don't drug them. Yes, do feed them before the flight. Like adults, kids get sleepy after they eat. This is not a well-kept secret. And if Mom can't contain him on the set, no way she contains him on a plane. And I for one don't want to get hit in the head with a two year old when the flight hits turbulence simply because Mommy can't get Junior to sit the fuck down and put on his seatbelt. Children should not be banned from air travel. But ones whose parents are incapable of controlling them should be.

Oh, and Klompus, I was taking commercial flights by myself by age 5, no problem. I knew that if I fucked up, my Pops would be waiting to whip my ass when the plane touched down. Funny how that thought kept my little brown ass firmly planted in my seat.

steveh2

Um, are you new here?

I know I'm late with this, but awesome.

Art Vandelay

I know I'm late with this, but awesome.

Is it ironic that I assumed people have common sense on a blog that's existence lies around the fact that people have no common sense?

Jack Klompus

"Oh, and Klompus, I was taking commercial flights by myself by age 5, no problem."

Were those business trips?

Assman

As for this moron and her offspring: No, don't drug them.

Yes, drug them.

Yes, do feed them before the flight.

Do that too, but, please, also drug them.

Like adults, kids get sleepy after they eat.

Or they get hyper, have to poop, get antsy, etc. Depends on the kid, just like with adults.

Drugging the kid is practically doing them a favor, IMO. Asking them to have the attention span to sit still and play with crayons for 3 or 4 hours at 19 months old is like asking an adult to get on a 12-hour flight without getting fidgety.

If you could fall asleep on the 12-hour flight, you'd do it. Why fuck with the kid? Knock 'em out. Everybody wins.


M. Butler

Better yet, drug me.

David Putty

I'm just catching up. This woman is an asshat. Like you say, score one for the defendants.

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