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Finally, an actual victory in the "War on Terror".

I'm sure you all know the plot by now the plot of radicalized muslims based out of London and Birmingham to carry liquid explosives onto a dozen planes bound for the US, supposedly today or tomorrow.

More details are trickling in now, including the almost Hollywood-like heroics of British Intelligence, including both Mi:5 (for internal British threats - pictured left) and Mi:6 (for overseas intelligence threats) in preventing what otherwise would have been a horrific attack against our two countries.  Both organizations worked diligently together and with foreign intelligence services to cast a tightening net around some really, really bad dudes, and then finally dropped the hammer on them when they overheard a message telling the 24 to "go now".  Let this post serve as a small token of gratitude to those guys, for saving the lives of thousands of people, including possibly several friends and business associates who I know were to be travelling from London to the States this weekend.

And of course, some information about the plotters have been released today.  Initial reports paint a relatively idyllic pictures of "quiet" "perfect neighbours" who "loved cricket".  However, at least a few of these "good mates" had already prepared their "martyrdom videotapes".  The group even included several of English decent who had recently converted to Islam.  And this is what really gets to me.  Suicide bombers who grow up dirt poor in Karachi or Gaza and fall in with these Islamist douchepumps (while in no way pardonable) are at least understandable.  I can at least wrap my mind around some poor, hungry dude being warped by the one group that hands them a kabob and some rice.  However, people who grow up and live in the relative luxury and liberal (small "L") freedom of a London suburb plotting to kill several thousand of their fellow neighbors and countrymen - it's simply unfathomable.  In an ironic twist, you can bet these cocksuckers will be hiding behind every common law right they are afforded as Brisith Citiziens over the next few weeks - essentially benefitting from the system of human rights that they plotted to destroy.

Also, this can not be the end of the story; as there clearly exists a large support netword for the pbombers -  mosques, clerics, and other radical Muslim friends that have to be brought to justice as well.  I hope the British Government doesn't lose it's nerve with such co-conspirators.

As for the 24 plotters, I hope they all enjoy a long lives dropping the soap in Her Majesty's Pound Me In The Arse Prison.

Comments

[Jack Klompus]

"Ok, whatever you say, why the fuck would I choose to raise my children here if I hate it so much? I'll put it to you like this "I love my country, I just hate the people in charge".

Well the majority of your fellow countrymen elect the people in charge, so effectively the majority of the country is in charge. Do you hate the majority of your fellow citizens?

"There are many documented occasions of minutemen using african slaves as shields decoys and many other bullshit "tactics". There are records of British officers commenting on how terrible it was that the minuteman militia would treat people, so willing to fight for the revolutionary cause, so poorly."

I don't doubt there were documented occasions of what you said, but it's difficult to substantiate the accuracy of that one way or the other. My understanding was that most of the male slaves were tricked/bribed into joining the militia in exchange for freedom. Some were granted freedom afterwards, many were not. Alternatively, many other slaves (mostly from the South) joined the British as a way of retaliating against their slaveowners (especially since the Southern slave owners were afraid to put their own muskets in the hands of their slaves). If those accounts are true, then it would not make sense that they generally used the slaves as human shields. But if you have any good sources that support your point (that aren't rap lyrics), I'd like to read them.

[The big O]

"But if you have any good sources that support your point (that aren't rap lyrics), I'd like to read them. "

LOL, well that rules out a rebuttal from me doesn't it?? I mean that's all I know. 'Today was a good day' (so far), I'll go home tonight and read my kids a 'Childrens Story' and then I'll enjoy a nightcap of 'Gin & Juice' & later my wife & I will do the 'Wild Thing'. Douchebag.

"Do you hate the majority of your fellow citizens?"

What, you mean white people? Naw, just feel sorry for them really, ya know with the reccesive gene and all. But seriously some of my best friends are white. lol

[Jack Klompus]

"Keep up with that 'kill more brown people' thing though, it seems to be working like a charm"

First of all, that "kill brown people" thing was not my wording. I never said such a thing. It was the result of a typical liberal knee-jerk interpretation by briandtw. I may be simple, but not that simple.

Second of all, once again you use a selective timeline. That border has been in question since the Ottoman Empire. In any event, Israel occupied southern Lebanon for the exact reason we're seeing a problem now: Southern Lebanon serves as the perfect staging and launch area for Israel-haters, and Israel cannot depend on the Lebanese military or the UN to keep anti-Jewish militia from setting up shop there.

Now I would certainly agree it's Israel's fault for creating Hezbollah by not leaving in 1982 after the PLO was ejected from the same border region. However, that ship has long since sailed. Even though they fucked up in the past, it's still their responsibility to protect its citizens from Hezbollah attacks in the present. They can't just sit there and leave Hezbollah aggression unchecked.

And Hezbollah did not become a power player in the southern region without some complicity from the Lebanese. The fact that anyone from Hezbollah could even be elected shows that they are welcomed by enough of the people of that country. When they wanted Syrian troops out, they had plenty of international support. So why not do the same with Hezbollah, if they truly want a peaceful border with Israel?

[Steve H.]

Klompus, I have no doubt that a lot of Hezbollah terrorists would like to kill Israelis. But they've been spectacularly unsuccessful at it over the past six years. Given how successful Israel's actions were between October 2000 and July 2006 in preventing Hezbollah from killing Israelis, I would say that killing hundreds of Lebanese civilians was unnecessary.

Israel's right to defend itself isn't really the point in this instance, because the facts show that Israel has faced minimal risks, if any, from Hezbollah over the past six years.

Serious question, Jack. Do you believe that it would be morally permissible for Israel to drop nukes on southern Lebanon? If not, why not?

[Jack Klompus]

"LOL, well that rules out a rebuttal from me doesn't it?? I mean that's all I know. 'Today was a good day' (so far), I'll go home tonight and read my kids a 'Childrens Story' and then I'll enjoy a nightcap of 'Gin & Juice' & later my wife & I will do the 'Wild Thing'. Douchebag."

I wasn't being serious, retard. I was just making a joke in reference to the Immortal Technique discussion from a while ago.

[The big O]

"I wasn't being serious, retard."

LOL, I know just flippin ya some shit.

But seriously Immortal Technique say.....................

[Jack Klompus]

"Serious question, Jack. Do you believe that it would be morally permissible for Israel to drop nukes on southern Lebanon? If not, why not?"

No, because dropping a nuke(s) would be a clear sign that no effort is being made to avoid civilian casualties.

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